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Critique the person above based on their uploaded photos

Just like the title says. If you come in this thread, you will critique the person above you based on their uploaded port.

RULES
1) You must look at their entire port on LPC.
2) Comment on at least two images, in the thread (here) and on the images in the comment section of each image.
3) Add this person as a friend, if they are not already. This is a friendly critique.
4) Add a written critique of this person here.
5) Be nice!

NOTE// The person above you means the LAST person that critiqued that was not skipped. Please, try not to skip anyone. You can critique multiple times and be critiqued multiple times but try to let as many people ahead of you as possible. THERE will and SHOULD BE debate... remember, BE NICE. ~ bb

I am obviously first on the chopping block. Go!

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ill bring it back.. or try...



i like this shot, overall, as in, the feel. but i think you could stand to be a little closer to the subject, and im definitely not fond of her lack of detail.



i love the simplicity, the only thing id change is darkening the background, if possible. but even without that its great. its such a "nothing at first glance" but you cant help but stop and check it out shot.

sorry for being so short, the children feel like theyre more important right now. :\
Im far from one to give any critique but here I go..I'm going to try my best....




This has always been my fav picture by you. I love the crativity of it, the colors, the only thing I think could make it any better to me is just a few less peddles. that's it.


I like the concept of this picture, I like the way the background is out of focus and the color is distorted, but I don't like how she is distored. But other then that...good photo....but then again, I just really love Jes' stuff!!!

ok, so who ever does me, please be gentle, this is my first time...
trellyn said:
Im far from one to give any critique but here I go..I'm going to try my best....




This has always been my fav picture by you. I love the crativity of it, the colors, the only thing I think could make it any better to me is just a few less peddles. that's it.


I like the concept of this picture, I like the way the background is out of focus and the color is distorted, but I don't like how she is distored. But other then that...good photo....but then again, I just really love Jes' stuff!!!

ok, so who ever does me, please be gentle, this is my first time...

Oops! put it in the wront place.
Goes here?

This is by far my favorite of your port. Her eyes are amazing. I am new also so, I don't really have a professional opinion, just know what I like. The point of view drew me in and the eyes kept me there.. great photo.
okay. giving this another go, because well it has been since april that i have done one of these, so i'm going for round two.


i love the detail in the pelican. and the colors. i think the water has a slight purple tint to it, don't know if that was intentional or not. but that's probably the only thing that i would change.



I like the concept of this one. however, it feels a little blurry. the lollipops anyway. and white seems a bit to white.... maybe darkening the edge of the picture or something to pull the focus in a little more on your focal point.


I like this one. the tree almost looks like lightning streaks or something. its just eerie and fun.




i can't believe i just put my head on the chopping block yet again.
First Elizabeth I absolutely love the kid eating watermelon and the child making the heart shape with his hands. I also like the sharpies in the mug and the jelly bean photos a lot. But as the purpose of this thread is critique, I'm going to choose photos I am less crazy about to comment on.



OK, teens eating ice cream. I don't get it. I mean, it's teens eating ice cream. What is the story? What is the value? You could say the table creates a leading line to one of the subjects and I suspect the tilted camera is artsy, but it's still just teens eating ice cream. Natural light, no faces to the camera or anything. Makes a good ad for Pepsi I guess. If I'm missing something, fill me in.



Was this taken with your camera phone? I think my overall criticism is that you have some great shots in your portfolio, but they are mixed in with not-so-great photos of the same dog and then plain stuff like the ice cream shot and out-of-focus camera phone shot of the fireworks. I would trim your portfolio to one or two shots of each subject (like the dog) and perhaps consider dropping some others. The reason being, it gives the appearance that your good shots are lucky captures rather than intentionally set up.



I really like this one except I think I would have focused on the building. We all know what caution tape looks like, but we don't know what the building looks like. The big letters on the tape would still be readable even out of focus and I would prefer to see the detail in the building.

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I'm not very good at taking criticism so I sometimes feel bad dishing it out. If my client is happy and the check clears, then I'm happy. Two notes to the person who critiques me: Most of my photos were uploaded at the same time so choose to view in Most Popular or Random. Secondly, I don't use photoshop (read more about that in my profile) so what you see is what the camera saw. And also, some of the photos are my business ads and pics of me (because when I joined I treated this site like myspace and posted photos of me) so those don't count. :-)
well its 3am and i'm bored outta my mind and cant sleep. I realize that i'm soooooooo asking for it...just as everyone else here...but here we go...

Mr. Zimmer, I viewed your portfolio here on LPC. I read your profile as well..this isnt the first time..but I wanted to make sure after your critique to Elizabeth that I followed your instructions and did as you asked..hehe. Take in mind during my critique that I'm one of the most easy going chics you'll ever meet, and I find this game most enjoyable.
As a club go-er I have to say that I enjoy your music and club photos very much. I can say this is definitely a strong area of your talent in photography and I look forward to seeing more of your work.
This photos is one of the favorites I found in your portfolio. The only change I would have made is focusing more on the hand closer to your lens...but either way a great photo!


again...the club and music area of your photography...no complaints just a great photo!..


Oh.....i just wanted to throw alil something at ya...explain please.."I dont use photoshop".....rev giggles..tisk tisk!!


I love to do boudoir photographs..some people rock at it and others dont....I am one person that can say that I am still learning about photography's do's and donts...but one thing i know. There is a fine line you must follow to do men's nude art. I love the idea you had here for this photograph..but I feel you should have used a female for more curves and better lighting to get the idea across better.


K~and whats up with the blurry birds??.....talking about triming down your portfolio..."I would trim your portfolio to one or two shots of each subject (like the dog) and perhaps consider dropping some others. The reason being, it gives the appearance that your good shots are lucky captures rather than intentionally set up"....lol..dont be mad!..I'm just playing witcha!

but seriously...whats up w/the birds?...LMAO


lastly............and its now 3:20am.....i knew I would take awhile..LOL. Mr. Zimmer..You are a wonderful photographer. You dont need me or anyone else to tell you that. Your accomplished and successful and I applaud your hard work and talent.As I said, I am still learning and with every talented photographer I come to meet, I consider myself lucky to have been able to give my opinions openly about their work and hopefully receive some insightful and constructive critique about my own. I welcome any ideas or suggestions to become a better photographer.
OH BTW~

the ice cream parlor pic by Elizabeth........

OK, teens eating ice cream. I don't get it. I mean, it's teens eating ice cream. What is the story?

This ice cream parlor is a huge part of my childhood...Since i was big enough to walk, my parents took me to this ice cream parlor and now a 36 yr old mom of 5 children...I take my children...hehe. This photograph represents a zillion ice creams consumed as a child, and now as my children consume them. Its a reminder to me that that part of me...that teen age girl....still lives inside and thats me sitting there with my friends talking about some boy named Brain that I fell in love with last week...LMAO. So...anyhow...just goes to prove..that one person can look at a piece of art and say.......WTF? and the other person can say.....OMG i get it!!!!!!!!....LOL..Remember art is personal and everyone has a unique perspective and way of looking at things.

just thought i'd share................OMG...i gotta go to bed!!!..g'nite

Rev
The Rev said:
OH BTW~

the ice cream parlor pic by Elizabeth........

OK, teens eating ice cream. I don't get it. I mean, it's teens eating ice cream. What is the story?

This ice cream parlor is a huge part of my childhood...Since i was big enough to walk, my parents took me to this ice cream parlor and now a 36 yr old mom of 5 children...I take my children...hehe. This photograph represents a zillion ice creams consumed as a child, and now as my children consume them. Its a reminder to me that that part of me...that teen age girl....still lives inside and thats me sitting there with my friends talking about some boy named Brain that I fell in love with last week...LMAO. So...anyhow...just goes to prove..that one person can look at a piece of art and say.......WTF? and the other person can say.....OMG i get it!!!!!!!!....LOL..Remember art is personal and everyone has a unique perspective and way of looking at things.

just thought i'd share................OMG...i gotta go to bed!!!..g'nite

Rev


yes exactly! that picture, when i first stopped by there to take some pictures i had no idea that anyone would even be there. it was one of those weird weather days where it was kinda cool, and almost not ice cream weather, but at the same time if you stood in the sun to long or were out walking around you were going to get hot. Right as i pulled up this group of teens showed up, and were sitting there talking to their friend who worked there through the window. and it just reminded me of being a teenage, and roaming germantown, and going to that same ice cream place with a group of friends, and buying and ice cream, generally bought with change, honestly doing nothing, sitting and talking about trivial things that i don't even remember. and just about being a kid/ teenager growing up in germantown, walking around with a group of friends, and never doing anything to cause trouble but everyone always assuming you were up to no good, when all you really wanted to do was hang out with our friends and eat some icec ream.
Jacob Zimmer said:
First Elizabeth I absolutely love the kid eating watermelon and the child making the heart shape with his hands. I also like the sharpies in the mug and the jelly bean photos a lot. But as the purpose of this thread is critique, I'm going to choose photos I am less crazy about to comment on.



OK, teens eating ice cream. I don't get it. I mean, it's teens eating ice cream. What is the story? What is the value? You could say the table creates a leading line to one of the subjects and I suspect the tilted camera is artsy, but it's still just teens eating ice cream. Natural light, no faces to the camera or anything. Makes a good ad for Pepsi I guess. If I'm missing something, fill me in.



Was this taken with your camera phone? I think my overall criticism is that you have some great shots in your portfolio, but they are mixed in with not-so-great photos of the same dog and then plain stuff like the ice cream shot and out-of-focus camera phone shot of the fireworks. I would trim your portfolio to one or two shots of each subject (like the dog) and perhaps consider dropping some others. The reason being, it gives the appearance that your good shots are lucky captures rather than intentionally set up.



I really like this one except I think I would have focused on the building. We all know what caution tape looks like, but we don't know what the building looks like. The big letters on the tape would still be readable even out of focus and I would prefer to see the detail in the building.

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I'm not very good at taking criticism so I sometimes feel bad dishing it out. If my client is happy and the check clears, then I'm happy. Two notes to the person who critiques me: Most of my photos were uploaded at the same time so choose to view in Most Popular or Random. Secondly, I don't use photoshop (read more about that in my profile) so what you see is what the camera saw. And also, some of the photos are my business ads and pics of me (because when I joined I treated this site like myspace and posted photos of me) so those don't count. :-)


I like that your prefaced your comment with the good stuff, made the not so good go down a little easier.

First i will say, i comment about the ice cream parlor, a few comments down, to The Rev, so look there for the details on that one. the fireworks, i agree. for the record no it was not with a camera phone. none the less i honestly forgot it was even in the portfolio or that i even uploaded, i dont remember doing so.

As for that lava house photo, this one was one of a series i took while photographing the lava house. just the one that i personally liked best, basically for all the reasons you didnt like it. guess we are just different there.

but i do agree my portolfio does need a bit of trimming. some things need to go. however, my dog is cute. and furry, and he likes the camera, and unless by some odd chance he gets a friend soon, there will be no pictures of any other animal anytime soon, hes all i have.
WOW, I didn't think anyone would look at this thread in the middle of the night, but OK, lots to reply to here.

THANKS Rev and Elizabeth for expounding on the ice cream photo. :-) I especially enjoyed the line "and never doing anything to cause trouble but everyone always assuming you were up to no good, when all you really wanted to do was hang out with our friends and eat some ice cream."

Elizabeth, your dog has amazing eyes, really. Animals make lousy models* and the fact that you have a lot of good shots of the dog is to your credit. I'm looking at it from a potential client's point of view who I suspect might think of you less of a photographer who chooses animals as subjects and more of a woman who likes to take pictures of her pet.

Per the instructions in this thread, I looked at your LPC portfolio, not your website. So if your website that potential clients see is less crowded with the same subject, then you are fine. In the world of models for example, if a portfolio has many shots of the same model, well, that shows that the photographer hasn't worked with a variety of clients. While I have a dozen favorite shots of one model, I choose only 1 or 2 for my portfolio so it shows potential clients that I have worked with a lot of different people.

I don't know what the "Lava House" is. Perhaps if I did know and I recognized the building, then I would understand that the story of the photo is on the caution tape and not the burnt building (just guessing out loud). I got reamed on this forum once before for not knowing the "historical context" of a photo I called "gross" (it was a severed limb) so maybe I am the oddball for not recognizing the building and knowing the story behind it.

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*Blurry birds? Well, they are far away and move pretty fast! Now, the one you posted, yeah, honestly I am confused as to why the leaves were sharp and the bird was not. I guess because it was moving. Now, the Pelican head is in sharp focus and the seagull in flight is not that soft. But in any case, they were shot with a $150 300mm lens without VR, not a $1200 true sports lens.

When I was a kid, some of the neighbors were hunters and we all played hide and seek at night. I kinda wanted to go hunting with them, but truth is I just didn't think I could kill an animal (especially after seeing my dog ran over when I was 10). So I was telling my mother that I liked the idea of sneaking around in the woods and shooting animals, but I didn't want to harm them. She said: "Then instead of a gun, use a camera." Shooting birds in flight is a lot like hunting but without the mess.

So when they went on hunting trips, I rode my bike to the Crescent Hill Parlor and ate ice cream by myself. Maybe I should have gone to Germantown for ice cream instead and met some girls.

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The nightclub gig has become my signature work in the public arena (since the smoking ban) and it's a good gig. I work directly for the club and/or promoters and they use the photos for their marketing literature. Its not like a paparazzi that crashes a party *wink, wink* or a retail gig selling prints on site. I'm more like one of the staff and it tends to be pretty social. Plus most of the parties have themes and as a former thespian, I enjoy dressing in costumes. But mostly its a great networking opportunity for my studio work.

The bass shot - yeah, I wish the focus was down the neck a little more, but like birds in flight, he was moving around the stage a lot.

Interesting that you chose four B&W photos when I love color.

Ads are photoshopped (but usually not by me). The runway shot was for a print ad in a magazine at a bridal show for which I directed the fashion show. So when audience members saw me on stage introducing the runway show, they made the connection to the ad in the magazine (hopefully). I still use that image on MySpace because it represents both my behind the camera and behind the curtain work.

The DJ with the mohawk photo was used in an ad also. The champagne toast photo was shot at an invitation only pre-party a month before the club opened. The GM at the time said that he wanted black and white photos and that image was my very first attempt at selective coloring. Usually when I try to edit photos on the computer I screw up and make them worse. That's why I hire others to do it, or in some cases the clients do it.

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I have done that same shot (male nude) and lighting/backdrop with female clients, but they were for private and personal viewing by the clients, so I can't post them. I have had a few other male clients, but they too wanted their photos private. I have a couple female boudoir shots on my OMP www.onemodelplace.com # 130351.

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Thanks for the kind works Rev. Now I feel guilty for being harsh on Elizabeth. ;-)
Also, keep this in mind.
I have gotten 3 paying shoots as a result of people finding my REAL website through LPC.
The SEO for LPC is very strong. This is a good example of why to only upload your best work to LPC.

No to get anyone confused, but it is Rev's turn to get critiqued.
Carry on...

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